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Date: 2006 See EXCERPT FROM A CONVERSATION BETWEEN PHILLIP LOPATE AND ROBERT GARDNER in the Donnell Library Fall 2006 below. |
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EXCERPT FROM A CONVERSATION BETWEEN PHILLIP LOPATE AND ROBERT GARDNER in the Donnell Library Fall 2006 Lopate: Why does the marginal interest you so much? As soon as a group starts to enter the mainstream, you start to get dismayed saying: “maybe this is a little worn down, is this really interesting, is this going to be filmic, will it yield a story?” Gardner: Here again is the war between being either the conscientious social scientist or the thoughtful observer, a person with a more nuanced and subjective eye. For me, the marginal fall into some sort of relief and that way become more visible. I also feel strongly this is an opportunity to say something about ourselves. Lopate: You said at one point that you experienced yourself as a refugee, and maybe that's why you were interested in people who are on the margins. Why did you experience yourself as a refugee? Where did this refugee conscience come from? Gardner: Do you mean what was I running away from? Lopate: Yes what were you running away from? That's part of it. That's a good question. Gardner : To begin I think I was born a melancholy person and always felt that film had a melancholy way of looking at the world. I also thought, if I stayed at home, I might not be able to find or express the kinds of melancholy I thought I could in a culture I was less familiar with. Lopate: Why do you think filmmaking is intrinsically melancholy? Gardner: I think the main reason is that there's something I call ‘then' and ‘now'. Here you and I are in ‘now'; we are experiencing each other 'now'. The 'now', as a matter of fact, is the moment of experience, but the ‘now' is also a sliding into ‘then' at which point the 'now' is forever gone but film can capture it and remind us of its fate I think that is melancholic. |
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